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Minutes of the Teleconference Meeting of the DOE Hydrogen Codes and Standards
Coordinating Committee (HC&SCC) Russ Hewett, NREL
DATE:
January 8, 2003 TIME: 1:00 3:30 PM (MST)
PARTICIPANTS -
Al Vasys (Consultant to DOE and NREL)
- Brian Weeks (Chevron Texaco Technology
Ventures)
- Bruce Kinzey (Pacific Northwest Laboratory)
- Carl Rivkin
(National Fire Protection Association)
- George Thomas (Sandia National
Laboratories)
- Hank Seiff (Natural Gas Vehicle Coalition)
- Jim
Ohi (NREL)
- John Donahue (UTC Fuel Cells)
- Karen Miller (National
Hydrogen Association)
- Kelvin Hecht (UTC Fuel Cells)
- Neil Rossmeissl
(DOE/HQ, Technical Manager, Hydrogen Subprogram)
- Prentiss Searles (American
Petroleum Institute)
- Robert Mauro (Consultant to the National Hydrogen
Association)
- Robert Weichert (US Fuel Cell Council)
- Russ Hewett
(NREL)
- Tony Androsky (SAE International)
AGENDA AND SUMMARY
OF DISCUSSIONS
(1) Changes Getting Ready to Take Place in Karen
Millers Life Karen Miller, Vice President of the National Hydrogen
Association (NHA) and an active participant in hydrogen codes and standards-related
activities at NHA, will be moving to Great Britain in April 2003 and getting married
there in June 2003. Karen will continue her technical activities with NHA, especially
her involvement in codes and standards-related activities. (2) Efforts
Being Conducted by Kelvin Hecht to Catalog Codes and Standards Relating to Fuel
Cells and Possibilities for Integrating His efforts with Those of the HC&SCC Kelvin
Hecht of UTC Fuel Cells reported on the data base and information exchange
capability that he is in the process of creating relating to all fuel cell-related
codes and standards activities the data base to be accessible via the web.
Kelvin serves in the following capacities: (i) chairman of the US Technical Advisory
Group to IEC TC105; (ii) chairman of ANSI Z21.83; and (iii) vice-chairman of ASME
PTC 50. The web site is located at www.fuelcellstandards.com.
The site is dedicated to assisting the worldwide community working to develop
and interpret codes and standards for fuel cells. The HC&SCC, working on behalf
of DOE/HQ to coordinate and facilitate the timely development of hydrogen-related
codes and standards (including those specifically for fuel cells), will work with
Kelvin in his efforts. The goal is coordinating and integrating Kelvins
efforts with the development and maintaining of the DOE Hydrogen Codes and Standards
Matrix and Data Base. The action item is for Kelvin and Russ Hewett to continue
their discussions regarding to how to work collaboratively and come up with definitive
ways to do so.
(3) Coordination with NFPA and Their Newly-Created
Hydrogen Coordinating Group Carl Rivkin (Senior Chemical Engineer at NFPA
and responsible for managing many of the NFPA efforts relating to development
of hydrogen-related standards) reported on NFPAs newly-created Hydrogen
Coordinating Group (HCG).
The Group held its first meeting (by teleconferencing)
on Tuesday, January 7, 2003. One important outcomes of the first meeting was the
identification of those codes and standards needs deemed by the participants to
be of the highest, near-term priority.
The HCG will have its first in-person
meeting on January 28th at NFPAs facility in Quincy, MA.
(4) Coordination
with the US Fuel Cell Council (USFCC) Robert Weichert of the US Fuel
Cell Council reported on the activities of the USFCC Codes and Standards Codes
& Standards Working Group and the results of their teleconference meeting
held on Thursday, January 2, 2003. The Working Group is reviewing the following
standards: - NFPAPA 853
- ANSI Z21.83 Updates
- ASME
PTC 50
- IEEE SCC 21
- IEEE P1547
- IEEE SCC 36
-
NEC / NFPA 70 Article 691 (692)
- New York Interconnection Standards
- Texas Interconnection Standards
- California Interconnection
Standards
- SAE Fuel Cell Vehicle Standards
- IATA Fuel Transportation
Regulations
- UL Standards Development
- UL 1741
- IEC
TC 105 Fuel Cell Technical Advisory Group
- Unified Interconnection Standards
- California Alliance for Distributed Energy Resources (CADER)
In
addition, Mr. Weichert provided Russ Hewett with additional codes and standards
activities that should be included in the DOE Hydrogen Codes and Standards Matrix
and Data Base.
(5) Coordination with ASME John Donahue (UTC Fuel
Cells) and Robert Weichert (US Fuel Cell Council) reported on ASMEs proposed
efforts to establish and operate a Hydrogen Codes and Standards Coordinating activity.
If they were to do so, theirs would be the fourth such coordinating committee
-- in addition to the following ones: - DOE Hydrogen Codes and
Standards Coordinating Committee
- US Fuel Cell Council Codes and Standards
Working Group
- NFPA Hydrogen Coordinating Group
ASME will
address the issue in a meeting to be conducted in Washington, DC o n Monday, January
13, 2003. Mr. Weichert and Mr. Donahue will participate in the meeting. Their
objective will be to encourage ASME to establish a hydrogen-related codes and
standards activity that focuses on getting hydrogen (and fuel cells) addressed
in ASME-specific codes and standards, rather than ASMEs attempting to coordinate
the development of hydrogen-related codes and standards globally.
(6)
Process and Procedures for Providing Information for Updating and Maintaining
the DOE Hydrogen Codes and Standards Matrix and Data Base and Point-of-Contact NREL
has been focusing on creating the DOE Hydrogen Codes and Standards Matrix and
Data Base which catalogs and provides status information on existing hydrogen-related
codes and standards and work-in-progress to develop them. The Matrix and Data
Base addresses the following: (a) stationary applications; (b) transportation
applications; (c) portable applications; (d) the infrastructure; and (e) governmental
and quasi-governmental regulations. Fuel cells are an integral part of all applications.
However, there are still the issues of: (a) systematic process and
procedures for collecting information for updating and maintaining the Matrix
and Data Base; and (b) making the it accessible from the web. Neil Rossmeissl
said that he had made the commitment to having the National Hydrogen Association
serve as the focus for performing updating and maintenance and possibly serving
as the focus for making the Matrix and Data Base available to the worldwide community.
There was a clear consensus that, for reporting information for update and maintenance,
NREL should work with a specific person from each specific codes and standards
generating organizations. NREL, DOE/HQ and NHA will come together to work out
the arrangements for theses efforts.
Are
you working on Codes and Standards?
If you represent and organization
that is involved in the development of codes and standards and are interested
in participating in the DOE Hydrogen Codes & Standards Coordinating Committee
(HCSCC), please contact Karen Miller at the National Hydrogen Association at 202.223.5547
or kmilller@ttcorp.com.
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